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Post by Markus on Feb 17, 2011 3:03:39 GMT -5
I haven't played a Wrestling game in a very long time. I haven't watched Raw, SmackDown or a PPV in ages. But after reading this review, I thought that I would give this game a chance. The game is pretty damn awesome. I'd review it but the review above does a pretty good job. So instead, I'll just post this video that I uploaded directly from my PS3. The image is meh but you get the basic idea. Oh the carnage! HBK knocks two superstars off the apron and out of the ring. |
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Post by mirowr on Feb 17, 2011 11:38:45 GMT -5
I was never a big fan of WWF/E but I remember Wrestlemania 2000 for N64 consuming a good few months of my life. That was the first/last "pro"-wrestling game I ever bought.
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Post by Markus on Feb 18, 2011 9:25:16 GMT -5
I was never a big fan of WWF/E but I remember Wrestlemania 2000 for N64 consuming a good few months of my life. That was the first/last "pro"-wrestling game I ever bought. I was a pretty huge fan growing up. As a kid, I would stay up super late on Sunday PPV nights and wait for my father to come home from the bar where he watched the PPV. "Did Hogan win!? Did Hogan win!?" Seems like he always won and when he didn't I probably didn't get much sleep lol... Then in my teens and early adulthood we made Monday Night Raw and every PPV night a time to smoke spliffs and drink brew lol... Good times! Then McMahon bought the WCW and it was all downhill from there. I just stopped watching. But this game has me fiending for some spandex clad, manly soap opera drama damnit! But you're right that N64 wrestling game was classic. Rumble pack baby! PS: Watch and rate my videos for shits and giggles lol... PPS: WWE Divas. That is all. |
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 9:26:28 GMT -5
I was never a big fan of WWF/E but I remember Wrestlemania 2000 for N64 consuming a good few months of my life. That was the first/last "pro"-wrestling game I ever bought. The THQ/AKI wrestling games for the N64 were the best wrestling games ever made. The gameplay was perfect and fun for even non-wrestling fans. The move selection was insane and the create a wrestler options let you make just about anyone. Because THQ/AKI released games for WWF, WCW, AJPW and NJPW, the games had ALL the moves and most of the gear for any current wrestler and 50 or so legends. My favorite release was Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 (import, AJPW), which I liked slightly better than No Mercy because it had a few extra reversals, a "Super" special meter (that you could only use once per match), and it played faster. I wrote FAQs for Virtual Pro Wrestling 1&2 and they are still up on gamefaqs  The AI was awesome; my brother and I would make pay per views and just watch the CPU do the fights. Very entertaining matches. The blood, the Royal Rumbles, KO's and the instant replay were the icing on the cake. It's pretty sad that they haven't been able to replicate those games. |
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 9:33:24 GMT -5
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Post by Markus on Feb 18, 2011 10:02:15 GMT -5
This games physics are very well done... I've found myself on a few occasions with a ladder around my neck. Or choke slamming someone onto the steel stairs. BANG > thriving in pain.
This games create a wrestler is pretty amazing. You can create just about anyone that you want to and assign them to a franchise (raw or smackdown) and they will immediately start to appear in your WWE Universe (which is kind of like a season for you regular sport fans). Not only can you customize their look but you can go through the list of every possible situation and select what move you want your CAW to do in that situation. Tons of possibilities.
The online play isn't too shabby either. It even has a 12 man online royal rumble. You can DL creations from the community and the community is pretty damn good at what they do. I will never have enough patience to create Wolverine or Hawk and Animal for example
You can even set your own entrance music, uploaded from your PS3. My entrance music:
hehe ;D
Some things that I don't like: It takes too long to make people bleed! KO's should happen more often too. I want to be able to press a direction and then either press (grapple) or hold (strong grapple) one of the 4 (hell make it 6 or 8) buttons to do a move. And the moves would change based on the situation. This is how it used to be iirc back in the day. I miss that. Also, most of these damn wrestlers I don't know, at all. So that sucks for me too.
In general though, I feel like they just don't make games like they used to. I'm too hard to please or something... For example SE keeps letting me down. I guess to be fair they are letting me down by not blowing my mind anymore.
I could probably go on but I think I will play a bit instead <3 ^^;
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Post by Grimgore on Feb 18, 2011 14:07:00 GMT -5
No Mercy for the 64 was my favorite by far. I tried the SD vs Raw games but just couldn't get into them for whatever reason. And just like you, I used to be a huge wrestling fan. I think I stopped watching around the same time as you or shortly thereafter (2003 or so). My three favorite wrestlers during the Attitude era were Mick Foley, The Rock, and Jericho. By 2003, Mick Foley had more or less retired and The Rock had gone on to do Hollywood movies. That left Jericho, but WWE wasn't doing much with him at the time. Fucking HHH was the Heavyweight Champ for like 3 years straight and it just got boring. If he ever dropped the belt, you could be fairly certain he'd either win it back the next night on Raw or he'd get it back at the next PPV. I think he pretty much hogged the title up until WWE started to really push Cena, but that's about the same time I stopped watching. Cena fucking sucked. I dunno, I guess people were getting hurt alot or something and WWE decided to go back to a slower type of match with less big spots. Why they would do that after having MASSIVE success with the faster, spot-heavy type of matches in the late 90's will always be a mystery to me. Regardless, the 'new' match type was boring to me and I gradually lost interest as more and more of the wrestlers I came to admire during the Attitude era retired/left/got let go.
TNA still has some good matches, at least when the younger wrestlers are there. I don't think ANYONE wants to see Hogan vs. Sting for the 5 billionth time. That was done REALLY well in 1997 and I don't think there's much to add to it 14 years later. Nash was my favorite wrestler back when I started watching wrestling and hadn't gotten into WWF yet, only WCW. But he's all old and tore up now. TNA would be great if they'd just get rid of all the 50+ y.o.'s. A few people of that age can put on good matches (Terry Funk, Ric Flair) but most of the time they're better used for interviews or managers or w/e.
ECW>all, but unfortunately I didn't get into them until they had already gone under. I still watch old ECW matches on dvd or youtube from time to time, even though I wouldn't call myself a wrestling 'fan' anymore.
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 15:32:27 GMT -5
Seeing ECW for the first time in '95 blew my mind. I grew up watching Hogan, Piper, Andre, Savage and the Horseman, but things got pretty stale; the Hart / Lugar / Michaels circus era was it for me.
Enter ECW a few years later. My brother happened on one of their TV shows in '95 that was on at like 2 in the morning. He taped it and showed it to me, and we immediately became hardcore ECW fans. Sandman, 2 Cold, Raven, Dreamer, Cactus, Stevie, Malenko, Guerrero, The Eliminators, Joey Styles and the crowd - unbelievable stuff. It wasn't just the hardcore aspect - it was better wrestling than I had ever seen before.
We watched ECW religiously every week and would go to shows in the area whenever they came. At one of the shows I bought a 6 hour VHS tape called "Best of Budokan Hall" because it had some Dr Death Steve Williams, Terry Gordy and Stan Hansen matches. Little did I know what I was in for: 5 star matches left and right featuring Misawa, Kawada and Kobashi.
It was All Japan Pro Wrestling and it was by far the best wrestling I had ever seen. The King's Road style is as close to real as you can get; in title matches the guys literally give until they have nothing left. Head-bumps galore. Unfortunately the style cost Misawa his life a couple years ago and it shortened Kobashi's career.
Widely considered the best match ever, here's Misawa vs Kawada from 6/3/94. Misawa had just defeated Jumbo Tsuruta to become the HW champ and ace of the organization, and he was going against his friend and partner he also went to high school with - Kawada.
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 15:39:02 GMT -5
I followed ECW until the end (in 2000). I got into WCW during the nWo era, mostly because of their awesome junior division, and of course followed the WWF attitude era. My friends and I would go to this bar every Sunday for the PPVs - definitely good times.
Stopped watching WCW after David Arquette won the belt, and stopped watching WWE after Rock and Austin were done.
Now I just watch the Japanese stuff occasionally on youtube if there's a big match, maybe a couple times a year.
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 15:44:59 GMT -5
Misawa (240 pouds) hits a textbook tiger suplex on Kobashi (260 pounds)...off the ramp onto the floor.
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 15:48:38 GMT -5
Kawada hits the improvised Ganso Bomb on Misawa (who should have just worked the power bomb)
This is where the "Hangman's DDT" finisher came from in No Mercy.
BTW, Misawa kicked out.
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Post by lockejv on Feb 18, 2011 15:51:43 GMT -5
Kobashi's Burning Hammer finish - IMO the best finisher ever. Basically a Torture Rack into a Death Valley Driver. This was in No Mercy, forget what they called it. Kobashi has only used it 7 times, and here's all of them. Nobody has ever kicked out.
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Post by Markus on Feb 19, 2011 10:22:18 GMT -5
When I was a kid my favorite wrestlers were Hulk Hogan and Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. Razor Ramon, Diesel and Brett Hart were soon to follow. Then nWo kind of changed the game completely. DX followed suit. Then Stone Cold and the Rock showed up on the scene. Those must be two of the most creative people in wrestling history. Austin designed his own T shirts and they both, reportedly, wrote alllll of their promos. Fuck watching a match, kick off the second hour of Raw, I want to hear my boy talk shit lol...
The Rock has recently returned to the WWE and says that he will never leave again. I still get goose bumps and shiver lol... The People's Champ, bald head and all, ftw. Add Dwayne Johnson on FB, he's the realest, most down to earth guy ever.
The new WWE also includes many second and third generation wrestlers. The Hart Dynasty is another reason I may start watching again. David Hart Smith, Tyson Kidd, Natalya, the sharpshooter, good times. DH looks so much like the Bulldog, it's almost creepy. Natalya is a hottie.
I also enjoy Terry Funk, Mick Foley and hardcore wrestling. I'm not sure if it's because I live in Canada or Quebec... But unfortunately we NEVER got ECW up here. I don't even think we are getting Raw on TSN anymore (but it's all over the net). I do believe that our sports channels are carrying TNA these days... So I missed out completely on that. It took a long ass time before we got WCW too and I was so happy when we did. I was finally able to see the other side of the rivalry and that rivalry was a big reason why the WWF was so successful. A superstar is on PPV one night and on Nitro the next night, omfg the drama.
I could probably go on forever...
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Post by Markus on Feb 19, 2011 10:57:54 GMT -5
re: the videos Locke posted
How the hell do they do it to smack their heads and neck like that and not be dead or paralyzed or severely injured or some shit... Craziness.
Someone translate the commentators for me? lol, I'm curious
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Post by Grimgore on Feb 19, 2011 15:24:22 GMT -5
That's an example of a really good TNA match IMO. Petey Williams' finisher is my favorite of any wrestler, ever.
And yeah, the Japanese wrestlers take really hard head bumps. No idea how they do it, I'd imagine they all have pretty severe brain damage by their mid 30s.
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