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Post by tarick on Dec 30, 2005 13:10:56 GMT -5
Just found this little bit while messing around
If newly-hatched geese are exposed to a moving object of reasonable size and emitting reasonable sounds, they will begin to follow it just as they would normally follow their mother.
This is called imprinting.
The time of exposure is quite critical. A few days after hatching, imprinting no longer occurs. Prior to this time, though, the results can be quite remarkable. A gosling imprinted to a moving box or clucking person will try to follow this object for the rest of its life. In fact, when the gosling reaches sexual maturity, it will make the imprinted object — rather than a member of its own species — the goal of its sexual drive.
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Post by _Code on Dec 30, 2005 13:13:36 GMT -5
THAT explains my unquenchable desire for the backseats of 1973 Ramblers!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Nauren on Dec 30, 2005 13:18:26 GMT -5
Damn my parents for having me at the farmers market!
but...what makes this goslin do this? I would think instincts. An action or reaction implemented in brain in the fetal stages of life.
Which came first? The egg or sexual desire?
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Post by mirowr on Dec 30, 2005 13:25:36 GMT -5
I just caught up on this thread as well... I'd love to post my thoughts but I'm going to have to research words big enough to impress you'z guyz.
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Post by _Code on Dec 30, 2005 13:25:51 GMT -5
ever masturbate with egg whites?
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Post by Nauren on Dec 30, 2005 13:29:29 GMT -5
no but birds keep pecking at my arse.
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Post by tarick on Dec 30, 2005 13:31:23 GMT -5
I would assume it has the simple instinct of mating with things like it. It doesn't know what it looks like, so it assumes that whatever object it follows is the same.
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Post by _Code on Dec 30, 2005 13:34:15 GMT -5
no but birds keep pecking at my arse. thats because of the corn.
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Post by Nauren on Dec 30, 2005 13:38:17 GMT -5
It really does follow the old saying "which came first the chicken or the egg" But to my understanding of evolution and natural selection, the thoughts or lessons learned are passed down to the newer generations in the embriotic phases of life.
I think alot of primative thoughts are passed down...like a natural fear of the dark. Its not imprinted on us that the dark is bad. In fact..most of us as children have out parents telling us quite the opposite so that they can get us asleep. However primitage days, humans were not the top of the food chain and at night they were very vulnerable. Just one example.
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Post by tarick on Dec 30, 2005 13:49:06 GMT -5
If you raise a baby to sleep without a night light, they are just fine in the dark. I think that the instinct of fear is bred into us. I think that what we fear is learned.
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Post by Nauren on Dec 30, 2005 13:55:31 GMT -5
I was raised without a night light. However at 8-9 I was so afraid of the dark to the point where I would cry myself asleep and keep my mom up crying with me. I slept with the light on for a couple of years until I was old enough to understand. However..even at 27...a bad dream still makes me pull my covers a little closer over my head from time to time.
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Post by _Code on Dec 30, 2005 13:57:38 GMT -5
However..even at 27...a bad dream still makes me pull my covers a little closer over my head from time to time. it should also be mentioned this MAY be a result of living with me for several years. Nature ~ Nurture. Who knows
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Post by Nauren on Dec 30, 2005 14:07:59 GMT -5
and I quote
"Its too windy coldy outside" no typo's
you wanna talk about fear sleeping. Codeine said alot of shit in his sleep.
"no, its mexican style watermelons"
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Post by tarick on Dec 30, 2005 14:08:27 GMT -5
The fact that it's at 8 or 9 that you recall being afraid of the dark would seem to me to reinforce that this is a learned response. Why were you more afraid at 8 or 9 than you were at 2?
At 2, the only thing to be afraid of is that you can't see the things that comfort you. By 8 or 9, you've been exposed to many things, real and imaginary, that would cause that particular fear.
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Post by tarick on Dec 30, 2005 14:13:49 GMT -5
and I quote "Its too windy coldy outside" no typo's you wanna talk about fear sleeping. Codeine said alot of shit in his sleep. "no, its mexican style watermelons" My college room-mate "Bah, tis one big turtle" "Get out of the room, nature boy!" I was never a talker, my biggest was falling out of the loft onto a cushioned chair. My room-mate woke up and asked me if I was ok, I said "yeah" then passed back out.
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