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Post by mirowr on May 11, 2006 16:20:54 GMT -5
HERE'S A MONUMENT 4 U GUYZ!!!
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Post by Nauren on May 11, 2006 16:26:03 GMT -5
I would never allow my monument to be some piece of contemporary art crap
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Post by mirowr on May 11, 2006 16:28:13 GMT -5
aw come on i made it for you and cod... /grin
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Post by Nauren on May 11, 2006 16:37:37 GMT -5
sooooooo why the /hijack and not a new thread for it?
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Post by mistform on May 12, 2006 11:45:25 GMT -5
It ranked 6th in the best games ever....Tekken did not and for the 174,00 in one week, guess what... " Super Smash Bros. DX for GameCube was the #2 top-selling game in Japan for the week of Nov. 19-25 selling 358,000 copies" ...thats double of Tekken 5...and btw Tekken 3 outsold 5 by a shyt load...which was 2,681,000 and for that score....check a good scoring site like IGN.com
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Post by Nauren on May 12, 2006 12:03:03 GMT -5
Where is it ranked 6th....Tekken 5 did sell 174,000 in the first week. And..if you divided the 20+ million units sold for tekkens 1-5.....the game sold on average better then any Super Smash Brother's game.
For selling only 2.74 million....that doesn't even come in the top 15 games sold on the last gen systems. Hell I can name 3 games off the top of my head that outsold that game instantly.
FFXII (went platinum in 4 days) KH2 (went platinum in a month) Nintendogs (tied for highest scoring of any game in history according to Famitsu)
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Post by mistform on May 12, 2006 12:12:54 GMT -5
Well I can Super Mario bros 3 beat any game ever sales wise....so I guess that beats Tekken....so its rather stupid to say Tekken beat that FFXII beat that...Super Mario 3 beat evrything ever. *Waits for haters to think of some other way to put Mario down*
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Post by Nauren on May 12, 2006 12:19:08 GMT -5
Wait..you said last gen systems did you not? I set out to make a point...not to be a hater. I posted my opinion on the game..you posted some incorrect info..I fixed it..here we are. If you are trying to lure me into a battle of "Super Mario is the best selling charactor of all time" argument..then look elsewhere. The super Mario trademark with over 130 individual games have sold more then any genre of games in history. With 130 indivdual games how could you not? However...SSB didn't even make it on the top 10 lists of 2003, 2004, or 2005....and here is the list.
Top Grossing Video Games of 2003 Rank Title Platform Publisher 1 Madden NFL 2004 PS2 Electronic Arts 2 Pokémon Ruby GBA Nintendo 3 Pokémon Sapphire GBA Nintendo 4 Need for Speed: Underground PS2 Electronic Arts 5 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker GameCube Nintendo 6 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City PS2 Rockstar Games 7 Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GameCube Nintendo 8 Tony Hawk's Underground PS2 Activision 9 Enter the Matrix PS2 Atari 10 Medal of Honor: Rising Sun PS2 Electronic Arts
Top Grossing Video Games of 2004 Rank Title Platform Publisher 1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Take Two Interactive 2 Halo 2 Xbox Microsoft 3 Madden NFL 2005 PS2 Electronic Arts 4 ESPN NFL 2K5 PS2 Take Two Interactive 5 Need for Speed: Underground 2 PS2 Electronic Arts 6 Pokemon Fire Red W/ Adapter GBA Nintendo 7 NBA Live 2005 PS2 Electronic Arts 8 Spider-Man: The Movie 2 PS2 Activision 9 Halo: Combat Evolved Xbox Microsoft 10 ESPN NFL 2K5 Xbox Take Two Interactive
Top Grossing Video Games of 2006 Rank Title Platform Publisher 1 Grandia III PS2 Square Enix 2 Battlefield 2:MC Xbox 360 Electronic Arts 3 25 to Life PS2 Eidos 4 Halo 2 Xbox Microsoft 5 Need for Speed: Most Wanted Xbox 360 Electronic Arts 6 Final Fantasy IV GBA Square Enix 7 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess GameCube Nintendo 8 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Xbox 360 Bethesda Softworks 9 Kingdom Hearts II PS2 Square Enix 10 Dead or Alive 4 Xbox 360 Tecmo
Awarded Best Fighting Game Genre
2003 Dragon Ball Z Budokai
2004 Mortal Kombat Deception
2005 Dragon Ball Z Budokai 2
Awarded Best Fighting Game of all Time
Mortal Kombat.
(PS..I don't really care for Mortal Kombat but I'm not the one making the decisions)
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Post by _Code on May 12, 2006 12:19:56 GMT -5
Where are you getting these numbers? Show sources Japanese Sales Records; Video Games1.97 million. Pokemon Outsold it. Final Fantasy 5-12 Outsold it. Street Fighter Outsold it. Even virtua fighter almost outsold it.
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Post by Kaifu1 on May 12, 2006 13:01:04 GMT -5
Mist, I've learned never aruge about numbers with these two. They are they rare breed who use facts and numbers to back up thier ranting ^^;
I find it funny DBZ sold so much. But, not surpising really.
Nauren, for those 2006 numbers, are they including pre-order? Because Zelda isn't out yet, iirc.
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Post by mistform on May 12, 2006 13:04:07 GMT -5
Also you notice that they didnt put the sale charts for the actual year Smash Bros came out...they are picking and choosing what info to show and what not to show...either way I dont care. I know who is #1 of gaming and I am sure more would agree with me than would disagree...
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Post by Nauren on May 12, 2006 13:13:07 GMT -5
It is including preorders kaifu. EB games has it listed on the best seller list already www.ebgames.com/default.asp?sect=1277I used the last 3 years in gaming..........thats like 1/6 of the entire home console video games history. If your referring to Nintendo..I need not argue..I like Nintendo..but sales proves that the top of the totem poll is Sony. The Gamecube didn't even break 20 million units sold compaired to PS2 110 million. I will own a PS3..I own a 360 already..and most likely I'll have a Wii....but I dont' argue numbers. I'm also not picking and choosing..I've no idea what year SSB came out...I picked the last 3 1/2 years of game data figuring it would be in there somewhere.
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Post by _Code on May 12, 2006 13:17:43 GMT -5
Nauren already admitted Mario is #1 in gaming sales. He'd have to be with 20 years under his belt. That wasn't the debate. You said Super Smash bros was #1 of all time. Which is blatently inaccurate. Then you backed up your statement with no source informationSo we'll have to agree to disagree. I agree Mario has sold a shit-ton of games, I disagree with the records your saying about SSB, and you disagree with facts. All Good, Mario has "nearly 200 million games featuring Mario have been sold,[1] making it the best selling video game franchise of all time.". Super Smash Bros however, was not their crowning achievment, nor Nintendo/Mario/Gamings claim to fame. Edit: Merged 2 posts. ==================== The original incorrect claim: btw Smash Bros on Gamecube outsold any fighting game of last generation. The facts:
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Post by Nauren on May 12, 2006 13:30:19 GMT -5
Just for the Record
Top Grossing Video Games of 2001 Rank Title Platform Publisher 1 Grand Theft Auto III PS2 Rockstar Games 2 Madden NFL 2002 PS2 Electronic Arts 3 Pokémon Crystal GBC Nintendo 4 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty PS2 Konami 5 Super Mario Advance GBA Nintendo 6 Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec PS2 Sony 7 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 PS2 Activision 8 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 PS1 Activision 9 Pokémon Silver GBC Nintendo 10 Driver 2 PS1 Infogrames
btw i'm not trying to be disrespectful or a dick...I'm simply correcting incorrect assumptions...People take their favorite video games too seriously like Football. The point is...a fanboy is a fanboy but there are a few that go by stats. SSB sold alot..I'm not doubting that...I still don't like it but what the hell...I liked Disgaea and that sold like 32 copies total lol.
and I saw where it placed 6th at Game Faqs..too bad thats a skewed result that was done by online voters. So people who visited the website could vote on it...its kinda like polls on CNN..they don't count because not everyone votes...not even 1/30th of video gamers vote
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Post by Kaifu1 on May 12, 2006 13:45:21 GMT -5
I love SSBM, don't get me wrong. it just didn't sell all that well, over all. It's like... Arc the Lad, or Lunar, they didn't break records for selling (I can't check the site, evil work computer), but you still have a good number of fans out there for those games. Thousand Arms, Valkarie Profile, 7th Saga(Super rare), Breath of Fire:Katt is hawt, Red Bull: It gives you wings, Act Raiser.
All great games, that didn't really sell well.
imo of course.
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