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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 29, 2005 15:53:16 GMT -5
oh sorry for another repost but it would be cool if we could have like a thread called something something discussions because i can see this thread getting very big and I really don't think the name is appropriate now. lol
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 29, 2005 15:50:56 GMT -5
I got my definitions from wikipedia...i would not argue with Code because I would pretty much agree with him…. Speaking about human reproduction I knew this guy in college who would always argue that without human reproduction or the possibility of human production you weren’t yielding anything to society(he was a so called utilitarian) and would use that point to argue about gays not being able to marry and shit…. I usually didn’t argue with him because those types of people you just can’t argue with so I just sat their and listend to him sound like an idiot who took one philosophy class and finally understands the world of metaphysics…. bleh, i just woke up kind of slept late and now i'm going out to dinner... so i'll respond later tonight. cya
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 29, 2005 4:12:43 GMT -5
Second, Nihilism is very different from existentialism. They're complete opposites of an idea, in fact. Nihilism teaches that there's no point to life, so we should basically all give up, etc etc. Existentialism teaches that there is no point, so therefore the only thing that matters is the moment you live in. With this idea every moment becomes sacred, because there will never be another moment like it. Existentialism gives hope where Nihilism denies hope. "Existentialism is a philosophical movement that views human existence as having a set of underlying themes and characteristics, such as anxiety, dread, freedom, awareness of death, and consciousness of existing, that are primary. That is, they cannot be reduced to or be explained by a natural-scientific approach or any approach that attempts to detach itself from or rise above these themes. " "Nihilism as a philosophical position is the view that the world, and especially human existence, is without meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. Some philosophers are considered nihilists if they hold the philosophical position that either (1) nothing exists (all there is is nothing), (2) the reality we humans experience does not exist at all as we see it, or (3) reality is unknowable, and thus the pursuit of objective understanding is valueless." Hmmm…..
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 29, 2005 4:04:51 GMT -5
lol i just play the game to have a good time with old friends in game thats about it but i don't make it a huge priority to get on every day.
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 19:27:59 GMT -5
aye, its always enjoyable to find someone who can discuss philosophy ect.
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 19:24:27 GMT -5
pretty amazing hahahah
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:22:39 GMT -5
this fourm is growing fast lol
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:15:44 GMT -5
lol "Even tempy will get laid one day... lol" you are very optimistic! j/k
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:08:26 GMT -5
or was it his wife.... i can't remember.... lol you want me to go pick up my copy of will to power and read it again
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:07:41 GMT -5
yeah about the end of his life... his fucking sister was making him believe he was crazy and telling him all this crazy shit and some people even believe she wrote some of his latter works lol
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:07:02 GMT -5
a "continual process of self-overcoming" i like that, and i just don't see that happening in his life style so, i don't think nietzsche would look to favourably upon that life stytle when you would be talking about becoing and uvermensch but i can see what you also mean in the other ideas that nihilism puts forth.
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 18:05:28 GMT -5
I guess i'm kind of pulling things out of his belief of an Ubermensch by which you would become...
1. By his will to power, manifested destructively in the rejection of, and rebellion against, old ideals and moral codes; 2. By his will to power, manifested creatively in overcoming nihilism and re-evaluating old ideals or creating new ones. 3. By a continual process of self-overcoming.
got that from wikipedia.... just seems to me like a stagnate world of playing video games and not doing any of those things like actually thinking(my room mate probaly has thought up 1 original thought in his life)
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 17:58:46 GMT -5
lol I'm in a paty and trying to post shit... i'll properly respond in a bit
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 17:52:18 GMT -5
lol,,,,,,,,, he wrote a lot about a lot of different things but from what i got out of it was trying to commit your self to an ideal... that ideal would be so great that you would be above everything else because you lived life so fierce and powerful... its been a couple years since i've read anything.
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Post by -=[Tork]=- on Dec 28, 2005 17:38:40 GMT -5
and i don't think nietzsche would agree with that life style at all.... he was all about power and strength even though he himself never lived up to his own expectation of what a powerful individual was supposed to be.
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