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Post by kristallis on Apr 27, 2005 11:52:38 GMT -5
I'm so disgusted with some members of EO that the mere thought of logging into FFXI makes me ill. Jon, you're a nice guy, but you handled last night's situation poorly. You tried to mediate a conversation between Zekk and I - and Zekk took a pot shot at me, and then you want me to go to him and apologise make it seem like I want to make amends first? Sorry Jon - to earn respect you have to give respect, and Zekk has no respect for me. So I guess he'll just have to wallow in this incident that happened over a month ago.
Tempus - I have no idea where you get off, but telling people I've been cybering with you is not only bullshit, but it's sad and pathetic. I might flirt and try to have a good time, but I'm married in RL, and have absolutely no interest in you what-so-ever. I thought you were a half decent friend...although it seems when life isn't going your way you become low and petty and moodier than a woman with PMS. And it really is none of your business on whom or how much gil I spend on anyone. I don't take your comments lightly, considering I've had to deal with psyco stalkers who've tried to spread the same type of rumor in the hope to break my husband and I up.
I hate to lump the majorty of the good people in EO with you two, but I honestly never wish to speak or interact with either one of you again. I went so far as to try to get my character transfered to a new server just to get away from this bullshit, but it seems I can't do that. So sad that two thoughtless and selfish people could make me hate the game so much I feel like I either need to leave the server or the game as a whole.
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Post by Gael on Apr 27, 2005 12:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by zekk on Apr 27, 2005 13:39:11 GMT -5
I didn't wanna be the first to (verbally) reply to this thead, but it looks like I have no choice...
After saying this, this thread will prolly be moved or deleted, but even if 1 sackholder reads, good, I got my point across.
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First off, it looks like the only thing we've ever agreed on was Jon handling the situation poorly. I know he's a sackholder and I give him as much respect as possible, but i refuse to lie to ur face and say "u handled that nicely." It was bearable at first, UNTIL you (Kris) left the chat room.
Now, since you want to talk about pot shots, I'd like for you to admit out in the open about the lies u told people about me. How i "promised" to help u with stuff and bailed on you to xp. You and Jon kept telling me that it was a "misconception" or "misunderstanding"
Well, you talking about my farewell post is a "misunderstanding" too. If u think I was doing it to take a shot at you, don't flatter yourself please.. i don't think highly enough of u to give u any type of praise. I did it because I was trying to hint it off to u that it doesn't bother me any more, and that since me and u weren't fighting, i'd somewhat miss the entrire LS, INCLUDING you. well.. maybe now that this is public you'll see just how many people know about our conflict. Do you REALLY think that only Temp, Jon, Gael, and I know about this? {/point/laugh}
I had kept this quiet for a long time. For the good of the LS, i didn't curse u out and send u to bed crying. that night you told me "fuck you" in linkshell chat for no reason (or atleast no real reason)... I kid you not, u can ask Tempus and Jon if you don't believe me. I told them if u started with me again, to break my pearl, because I was going to let you have it.
And I still haven't let u have it and I don't plan on it, because once again, i don't think highly enough of you to even "attack."
and no, this isn't an attack, i'm being truthful with you here cause if i wanted to attack, i'd say sooooo many different things.
And now making a deliberate attack at ME publically was prolly ur biggest error, mainly cause you fight with lies and opinions. I'm over the past situation. I can care less that ur always upset about something. What i'm not over is the crap u keep pulling. I have respect for everyone, but my respect for u has dropped to an all time low. If i had no respect for you, i woulda verbally assaulted u a long time ago, ever think of it that way? I have respect for you because you have a pearl and its bad to disrespect ur members infront of everyone. I just don't like you, that's all. the LS says i have to respect you, but nobody said i had to like you....this is just stupid.
Jon wanted me to apologize to you too, but that's not happening. I'm sorry about HOW this is happening, but i'm not sorry about WHATs happening. I meant everything i said.
straight and simple, i'm done with u if all ur gonna do is complain to people 1v1 and not confront me face to face, and thinking that just because ur a girl, u can cry and get ur way. hell, %90 of women don't even try so now ur just acting like a baby. We tried to talk about this 1v1 because i approached you, and of course, you kept bringing up the same stuff over and over again and kept picking out only what u wanted to hear. It was a pointless convo, so we really need to get this settled.
This game is like school and everyone on the server is a classmate. Regardless of how much u make me sick, it sucks to see a classmate go.
and please, DO NOT SEND Gael to talk to me. I understand u two are friends and all that, but this has nothing to do with him =/ I know that friend's defend friends, its ntural, but I don't wanna end up not liking the guy because of crap that ur pulling.
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Personally, I think this whole thing should be discussed with the sackholders and any other members who want to get involved and find a solution. the "stop acting like kids and apologize" isn't going to work. she crossed the line on this one.
I just don't wanna see this go any further, i'd stayed quiet about this long enough and feel something should be done. I don't want ur pearl thrown away or anything like that, It's sad to see something elevate like this.
The words of the wise: it's a damn shame.
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Post by tempus on Apr 27, 2005 15:06:20 GMT -5
Tempus - I have no idea where you get off, but telling people I've been cybering with you is not only bullshit, but it's sad and pathetic. I have not once, ever, said to anyone, that we have "been cybering". Whoever you got that from was exageratting and mistaken at best, lying at worst. Tempus - I have no idea where you get off, but telling people I've been cybering with you is not only bullshit, but it's sad and pathetic. I might flirt and try to have a good time, but I'm married in RL, and have absolutely no interest in you what-so-ever. I have never thought otherwise. Tempus - I thought you were a half decent friend...although it seems when life isn't going your way you become low and petty and moodier than a woman with PMS. So, you are the only one thats allowed to be in a bad mood and grumpy with people over the ls? And to think I was trying to take some time off from this game... -t PS I have NEVER said I was a nice person, in fact, quite the opposite. Several of you have objected when Ive said it, you have too kristallis. How easily that tune changes. |
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Post by Ruuk on Apr 27, 2005 15:50:59 GMT -5
What's with the acusations? Is this a channel for us to publicly bash each other? Fine! If you must air out what needs to be said, then go for it. Let me just say one thing... I'm really disappointed Kris. I don't understand what your trying to prove or gain by this thread. You want to say your Goodbyes as the title indicates, then do it! Don't start bashing each other, it will get us no where.
Hopefully a collective agreement will come from expressing what you needs to say. If it doesnt, then leave...get the fuck out if that will make you happier. I don't care.
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Post by Gael on Apr 27, 2005 17:06:16 GMT -5
It has something to do with me now.
Guys, this is friggin' retarded. For the record, everyone knows I think this whole thing is stupid.
Let me make one thing clear -- Kris never asks me to talk to anyone for her. If I do talk to someone, I do it of my own accord. Disbelieve me if you want, tell me I'm full of shit, I don't care -- that's the way it is.
You know why? Because I HATE seeing things like this happen. I hate seeing good things fall apart over something completely idiotic. If I can do anything to fix things, I try to. I know I can't solve every problem, but I don't do any good by ignoring them, either.
So go ahead. Yell at me, insult me, tell me I'm Kris' bitch, or whatever. She knows how stupid I think this whole mess is -- hell, I told her earlier today on the phone.
At least I tried. You can't blame me for that.
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Post by Krazi on Apr 27, 2005 17:08:43 GMT -5
I know Tempus isnt a nice guy. He's told me many times. I respect him for it because the world needs people that dont mask their feelings with happy, false bullshit. lol
I agree with miruuk. Say your goodbyes if that is what is needed but anything that goes on bt. two people does not need to be openly stated like this.
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Post by Ruuk on Apr 27, 2005 17:16:14 GMT -5
Gael-
I'm not going to yell at you, I'm not going to insult you, and I'm not going to call you names because there is no point to it. I've never thought any of these things.
I do agree with you tho, this whole mess is stupid.
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Post by Markus on Apr 27, 2005 17:59:12 GMT -5
*gets off topic*
Tempus is a nice guy. He can just be a real moody bastard sometimes and he calls them the way he sees them. That's probably why I get along so well with him. He has full access to the boards and site, a real prick would of fucked my shit up a long time ago.
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Kris...How many people are on this server? How many linkshells? It is impossible for us to think that we can all get along. Maybe this isn't the shell for you. Sorry to see you go, but it isn't the first time.
I personally have squashed many petty suqables. I don't have the time or energy to dwell on things, even if I know that I am right. You guys could of done the same thing. The kiss and make up approach that Jonathan was trying to use often works because the people involved want it to work.
You are saying some pretty fucked up shit about Tempus. Border line slander in my opinion...
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Post by Jonathan on Apr 28, 2005 16:33:56 GMT -5
No Gael, I don't and I don't think anyone else has any ill will towards you.
I tried to get things worked out but couldn't.
The reason why you two can't get along is because neither one of you is interested in getting along anymore. The 'line' has been crossed and you are each more stubborn than a mule. I PLEADED to each one of you not to apologize, But to make a simple gesture. Just any simple gesture showing the slightest sign that you want to try to make things right. Not an apology, no. Just something to say "I'm interested in fixing this." Any gesture of good will.
Neither of you wanted to. I had stayed up a a little over an hour that night trying to talk things out. My efforts were in vane.
I was very dissapointed to learn that neither of you were interested in making that gesture which left me very frustrated and thinking the only solution would be for you to blacklist each other and move on and ban both of you from making any posts referring to one another, despite the fact that I'm very against blacklisting.
Why do you two keep misinterpreting one another? Because you have negative charisma towards each other which will remain until you'd be able to say "O I'm sorry about that." "Yes I'm sorry too."
To start things off I didn't even ask for anyone to apologize...all I asked for was a gesture... A gesture...
A gesture.
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Post by Krazi on Apr 28, 2005 17:24:35 GMT -5
Hahahaha, sometimes you can be so niave jon.
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Post by tempus on Apr 28, 2005 17:26:13 GMT -5
Hahahaha, sometimes you can be so niave jon. He's younger and less jaded than you or I, thats not necessarily a bad thing. -t |
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Post by Krazi on Apr 28, 2005 17:32:17 GMT -5
lol, you forgot Canadien.
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Post by Krazi on Apr 28, 2005 17:32:58 GMT -5
shit double post. o well here we go off topic again lol.
Did i mention Off Topic is perfect for this thread.
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Post by Siltauk on Apr 28, 2005 21:15:06 GMT -5
Ok i dont know what the incedent was and i really dont care what or when it was. This is turning into a school girl/boy game. Most of us here all adults and if your not, when u are on here, you should act like one. there has been a lot of this shit going on over the past few months in one way or another. I dont know about anyone else but frankly i am tired of it. if you cant solve your problems with one another then u should pick another LS. I would like to think that this is an LS ful of friends with no enemies and i would like to keep it that way. As i can see out of the post that are on here there are a lot of false statements about ppl which = school girl B.S. This is not sometihing for the Sackholders to take care of, it is between u 2 and you 2 should resolve it. If you can then well i guess it is good bye Kris nice to meet ya. When im on the game i am on to have fun not to deal with shit like this, and im sure im not the only one like this, there are more ppl like this. Im sorry if i offend u or hurt your fealing but, truthfully i really dont care. "Adults" it is not hard to act like one and take care of your own shit vice putting it up in front of everyone that reads the boards to know. I'm in the NAVY and one of the saying we have, and one that most have heard. "DONT AIR YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE" that is all i really have to say about this.
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p.s tempus, your an ass but your still cool by me. lol
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