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Post by Markus on Apr 20, 2005 21:42:25 GMT -5
What bothers me is that it will now be easier and legal for lil rich boys to be loaded in FF...
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Post by Ruuk on Apr 20, 2005 22:06:18 GMT -5
On Wednesday, you'll see some press about Station Exchange. After about a week, we will conduct an in-game poll that's going to ask whether you: 1) Want to play on an "Exchange enabled" server 2) Do not want to play on an "Exchange enabled" server 3) Don't really care Hmmm, maybe they'll leave us the option for a write-in. I'm undecided how I would answer this poll. Maybe with an, EAT ME!!! Or perhaps a, FOOK OFF >.> Then again there's always the bold yet classic, ..!..
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Post by Markus on Apr 20, 2005 22:29:02 GMT -5
Lol. I would tell them that I would rather they find a way to eliminate the selling and purchasing of virtual good altogether. Not control or govern it...
Wtf I already have a hard enough time competing with the people who get there shit ligitimately (by playing 18 hours a day). Now I have to compete with the people who are going to use real life cash to get there shit...
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Post by Koga on Apr 21, 2005 21:45:44 GMT -5
It seems some of you don't understand what would happen. The gilsellers/gilbuyers would move to new servers, where everyone there will be selling or buying gil. This will make it so they won't be on our servers which will lower the amount of people camping mobs for gil and let people get them that actually need the item. If they have their own servers I bet they'll gladly go there so they would get more customers themselves and not get hassled by GMs. This would hopefully eliminate gilsellers from all the servers already made. Then everyone would have to legitamitely get items on their own and not buy from IGE unless they were on a gilseller server. This won't make SOE any more money, it will cost them some, but it will keep them from losing money from the people gilselling and let them not have to handle all the complaints about them.
I'd gladly welcome this change to FFXI if it ever got here and if it had been proven to work.
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Post by Krazi on Apr 22, 2005 0:17:14 GMT -5
Well I hope that happens Koga. But the law of supply and demand doesnt back it up. If they all move to like 4 servers shit will be over camped like mad there. Plus the gil wont sell for as much cuz its so abundant. These people are here to make money, not follow the rules. So staying on servers taht dont sell gil makes more sense. Ig they get banned o well. Start up a new character. I dont think it will change much of anything other than put money in SE's pocket and make people think the problem is gonna go away.
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Post by Itachisasuke on Apr 22, 2005 16:14:37 GMT -5
Krazi is correct IMO. Gilsellers want to be on a bunch of servers in order to be able to camp multiple of the same MOBs in order to make more money than all being on a couple servers and only be able to camp the ones on those servers. Like it is now they are spread among all the servers allowing them to camp more mobs and therefore get more gil to sell.
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Post by Koga on Apr 22, 2005 18:20:20 GMT -5
Though if all the gilbuyers move to the exchange enabled servers then IGE wouldn't be able to make any money if they didn't move too.
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Post by tempus on Apr 22, 2005 21:06:58 GMT -5
It really comes down to whether or not the company (SOE, SE, whichever MMORPG company we're talking about that implements this) enforces this strictly or not.
And remember guys, they are talking about EQ2!
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Post by Jonathan on Apr 24, 2005 19:26:21 GMT -5
what would happen is IGE and SoE would have competition and the price to buy gil will decrease. So more and more people would begin doing it.
IGE would still smell a market on all servers even the ones which would sanction gilsellers.
Gilsellers won't leave.
This is analogous with legalizing marijuana. People are gonna smoke it no matter what, government might as well legalize and sell it so everyone can benefit from its taxes.
We're gonna have gil sellers no matter what, SE might as well legalize it so they're the ones benefitting from it =\
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Post by Ruuk on Apr 25, 2005 11:36:45 GMT -5
This is analogous with legalizing marijuana. People are gonna smoke it no matter what, government might as well legalize and sell it so everyone can benefit from its taxes. ...amen...
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Post by Krazi on Apr 25, 2005 15:57:23 GMT -5
right on.
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Post by Koga on Apr 28, 2005 21:20:46 GMT -5
Just thought about something that may happen with this if they can do it. If a player is confirmed to be a gilseller they may just move them to the exchange enabled server instead of trying to suspend the account, it would help them enforce the rules of the non-exchange servers. I know some games get in trouble when they try to ban people from other countries but this would allow the gilseller to still play the game, just be moved to new server.
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Post by Jonathan on Apr 30, 2005 12:55:41 GMT -5
Ya good point Koga. Win-win situation.
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Post by Panthercat-gone on May 9, 2005 1:14:32 GMT -5
This is such a catch 22 that it is not even funny guys.... 1. it is not coming as of yet to this game it is going for a test drive so to speak in EQ2 so we don't even know how it will work there 2. if it does work there who is to say that SQEX will even pick it up as well i mean really what is the old say if i don't see it .. it didn't happen...they are turning a blind eye to it now so why would they think it would make that much of a difference to them 3. gilsellers are not going to leave and move to new servers they have a clientele already formed in these servers so why would they move and give up what they have going now really....if you were a gilseller would you leave somewhere you are guarnetted money or go and have to start fresh or if you were a buyer would you go somewhere you have to start again they will not leave and waste all that money they spent Now i am just playing devils advociate here but i think it is something to think about....i know just yesterday i was MPK'ed by someone and i hope that they do move but in reality not going to happened but it is a wonderful dream Anyway i think they will give it about 1yr with EQ2 and then we will see so don't count the chickens before they are hatched kk think right now we are stressing about this way too much Lets just be one big happy family and look out for each other and friends and screw anyone that gets in our way But that is just me no one messes with my family ;D
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Post by Xaero on May 9, 2005 10:07:43 GMT -5
btw, i went an grabbed the results of the poll and what was said.. What do you think of Station Exchange? For It: 33.71% Neutral: 32.61% Against It: 33.68% Do you want to participate in Station Exchange? Yes: 24.76% Don't Care: 29.90% No: 45.34% While opinions have been strong on this subject (in all directions), we'd like to thank you all for continuing to express yourselves in a way that has remained largely civil. We want to make sure that what we do with this service takes everyone's opinions into account, and that what we do is as tasteful as possible from everyone's point of view. Here's what you can expect to happen from here: 14 days before the service launches, we'll be letting people from all US and EU-English servers register for a move to a new Exchange-enabled server. These moves will be free, and characters will move with everything they own, except shared bank items, just like a normal /movelog does today. Once we've registered enough people to fill one server, we'll shut down movelog registrations and let you know that the registration period has ended. The service will initially launch on one new server, which will be populated by those who registered. Once that server is filled, we will repeat the above steps to fill a second server. In the future, people will be able to use the Character Transfer Service to move characters to Exchange-enabled servers, with one important limitation: Characters that move from a non-Exchange server to an Exchange-enabled server will do so only with their NOTRADE or ATTUNED equipment and house items, and without coin. This is aimed at preventing the non-Exchange servers from being fertile farmland for those who might seek to farm on one server, then move and sell on the other. While nearly one out of four people indicate they would actively like to play on an Exchange-enabled server, we don't plan on drastically altering the landscape of EQ2 from the outset by opening many servers on the same day. We'll continue to open new servers as demand for the service requires. If these plans change, expect further postings describing the changes. Thanks very much for logging in and answering the poll, and for your continued feedback here on the boards. Good hunting. - Scott
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