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Post by lockejv on Apr 4, 2007 11:52:31 GMT -5
Thanks Nana Quick question on crafting - is anyone on EO levelling Smithing? Also, I am guessing Mining would be the way to go to gather for Smithing...is it feasible to Mine/Smith for profits at lower levels? Edit: here's a really good crafting FAQ: wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=69;mid=117088981455461343;num=23;page=1 Edit: Should probably stick with skinning / leather until I get higher & maybe at least until I have a mount
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Post by Sosa on Apr 4, 2007 14:52:31 GMT -5
Tarick, there's an entire thread dedicated to addressing the majority of the questions you've asked. I think it should answer most if not all of the questions you have, and I'm happy to help with anything that doesn't get explained. Let me find the link and I'll post it...
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Post by Sosa on Apr 4, 2007 14:57:32 GMT -5
Here it is. This is an old thread that got started back when we were first making the jump over, and is designed to explain WoW to the newcomer that doesn't know a lot about it. It draws a lot of FFXI comparisons, but I tried to keep it as objective as possible. There's a class discussion thread here, which should help explain pretty much anything you wanted to know about classes.
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Post by Tarick on Apr 4, 2007 15:22:36 GMT -5
Great write up and thanks for the links. Helped pass the day with all the reading.
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Post by Markus on Apr 4, 2007 16:04:44 GMT -5
Great write up and thanks for the links. Helped pass the day with all the reading. Lmao. Why the hell is it when I am bored at work. No one posts shit all...
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Post by Markus on Apr 4, 2007 16:38:20 GMT -5
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Post by Milara on Apr 4, 2007 21:42:28 GMT -5
Thanks Nana Quick question on crafting - is anyone on EO levelling Smithing? Also, I am guessing Mining would be the way to go to gather for Smithing...is it feasible to Mine/Smith for profits at lower levels? Edit: here's a really good crafting FAQ: wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=69;mid=117088981455461343;num=23;page=1 Edit: Should probably stick with skinning / leather until I get higher & maybe at least until I have a mount Several people are doing smithing. Sosa, Cleb, and Ody are the highest ones, I don't know if anyone else is. To be honest though, if you're looking for money, get two gathering professions. If you're planning on doing leatherworking, I suggest you bank leather and sell ore or something until you get your mount, then drop mining and pick up leatherworking and grind out all those leathers you've banked and get it up faster. Production professions don't really make any money until you're pretty much at the top levels... and even then it can be slow.
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Post by Cydian on Apr 5, 2007 0:00:55 GMT -5
I took on Herbalism and Alch because when you hit the higher levels and start being able to make Mongoose Potions, and other Flasks or Elixirs, they sell for a premium because they are disposible and everyone will need them sooner or later.
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Post by Jonathan on Apr 5, 2007 1:12:55 GMT -5
If crafting isn't someone's cup of tea because they're a) not interested in having to rely on making money with something completely determined by supply and demand b) don't like being a "salesperson," c) don't want to see themselves being spammed by guildmates to make things, or lastly, d) would rather take two gathering crafts as more reliable sources of income...
The extra incentive for levelling a craft is that you can craft certain "Bind on Pickup" items. That is to say, you can craft Ex items, which means the absolute only way to obtain those items, is to craft them yourself, because once made they are not tradeable.
For instance, imagine HQ elemental Staves were BoP, the only way to own HQ staves would be to have near 100 Woodworking. Or imagine if the Crimson armor sets were Ex/BoP, meaning you'd have to have 100 Alchemy in order to be able to use Crimson abjurations.
The BoP crafted items in WoW are much more limited and less integral than FF's cursed gear, I was only using that as an example, however there are BoP crafted gear which are superior to Endgame drops and PvP rewards, and in fact they come into play as early as midgame (Lv 45).
Also Crafting in general is much less tedious than FF because skill-ups are more or less guaranteed. There are 4 tiers to skill up: Orange, Yellow, Green, Grey.
If an item is so beyond your skill lvl that it's displayed in orange, then you will have 100% skill-up rate. I find this to be broken really, since you can't "fail" a synth. It makes crafting too easy.
Yellow means you have a very good chance of skilling up (perhaps 50-80%). Green means it's quite easy to make and you'll prolly have a skill up rate of 25-50%. Grey means it's too easy to make and you can't skill up on it.
Crafts go from Lv 1-400, without decimals(1,2,3,...). So it's the equivalent of dinging Lv 40 in FF. If played out right, it can take as little as 400 synths to max a craft.
Although, need to be: -Lv 35 for 225+ -Lv 50 for 300+
There are 2 ways to raise your craft's cap, either buy training (fairly cheap, applicable to lower lvls) or do a quest like you would do a genkai for an xp lvl cap. (needed for the higher lvl trainings)
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Post by Sosa on Apr 5, 2007 5:32:28 GMT -5
A number of recipes also drop from world and boss mobs, though the drop rate is typically very inconsistent. Another consideration in deciding whether to pursue a production craft is that not only will they be less profitable than simply selling your gathering materials (by a significant margin, if you want to work out the math... the numbers are shocking,) but most professions are still less profitable than selling gathered materials unless you are willing to invest thousands of gold on the auction house buying rare drop recipes. Why buy them? Because the drop rate is so inconsistent, you are highly unlikely to obtain one through focused farming, it's dead luck. Unfortunately, you will rarely make back your losses on the recipe just through sales of the item... so unless you have a profession that specializes in commodities (Alchemy, Enchanting for disenchants (think desynth from FFXI) ) they will never be more profitable than gathering professions.
The reason you would want one is for the aforementioned bind on pickup gear, and being able to craft gear for alts and guild members. That's about it.
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Post by Tarick on Apr 5, 2007 7:31:34 GMT -5
Great write up and thanks for the links. Helped pass the day with all the reading. Lmao. Why the hell is it when I am bored at work. No one posts shit all... Cause you never asked.
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Post by Sosa on Apr 5, 2007 9:42:05 GMT -5
Great write up and thanks for the links. Helped pass the day with all the reading. Lmao. Why the hell is it when I am bored at work. No one posts shit all... I'm a post whore. I'm always up for uninvited text orgies...
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Post by Tarick on Apr 5, 2007 9:50:29 GMT -5
The last 2, unrelated posts have both used the word orgies. (in the 30 most recent, not in this thread)
This would make 3 posts now.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
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Post by tempus on Apr 5, 2007 10:41:57 GMT -5
The last 2, unrelated posts have both used the word orgies. (in the 30 most recent, not in this thread) This would make 3 posts now. Somehow, I'm not surprised. I was first with the orgy! -t
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Post by Tarick on Apr 5, 2007 12:18:59 GMT -5
The last 2, unrelated posts have both used the word orgies. (in the 30 most recent, not in this thread) This would make 3 posts now. Somehow, I'm not surprised. I was first with the orgy! -t There's no "I" in orgy. Don't be so selfish.
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